I recently had a conversation with a good friend on the subject of agendas. Call it the “Moral Majority” or the “Christian Right,” whatever you call it, there is a political force in our nation that hesitates to support Ron Paul because there are several moral questions it would like to see settled at the federal level and Ron Paul won’t go there.
We were discussing the so-called “gay” marriage issue and I said “but what if they lose?” Silence. “Oh, you’re right,” my friend finally responded …. this is making sense now.“ That’s the point the Christian Right seems to be missing. It wants desperately to take the issues of abortion and gay marriage to the federal level for a constitutional amendment, where in fact it might lose.
If there is deciding to be done, why not at the state level? Instead of the proverbial eggs all in one basket, you put them in fifty, and while some of them may go contrary to Faith and Tradition, not all of them will, whereas at the federal level it becomes an all-or-nothing proposition with a resulting lock-step sameness across the land. Plus, with the fifty baskets idea you can simply move to a state that agrees with you if and when it comes to that.
And what’s with these marriage licenses anyway? Oh … they’re to show that one is married. Okay. I go to a church and get married. I have a record of this. Now, when someone asks me if I’m married, I show them the certificate.
Well, suppose I am gay and it is after the fifty battles have been fought and I live in one of the states that have come to recognize my desire to live as man and man or wife and wife (sorry, I don’t really know how to put that). In this case I simply go to the government to get the record I need because it is through the institution of government that this arrangement has been instituted. In other words, isn’t the problem that we have taken marriage out of the hands of one institution (the Church) and put it into the hands of another (the Government)? Why not simply put it back where it was in the beginning and let the people of each state decide on the “gay marriage” issue?
Ditto for abortion. Right now this has law-of-the-land status on the majority opinion of nine. The Christian Right would have it decided on the majority opinion of fifty. Ron Paul would simply uphold the Tenth Amendment which would have it uniquely decided by majorities in each and every state, either by Legislative Body or Referendum.
It seems that our Republic is quite democratic after all. You just have to do what the Constitution says, which is what Ron Paul has been saying for how many years?
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You were so close to my opinions on gay marriage, and I thought you were going to go there, but then you didn’t
In fact, I think you ended up contradicting yourself.
“In other words, isn’t the problem that we have taken marriage out of the hands of one institution (the Church) and put it into the hands of another (the Government)? Why not simply put it back where it was in the beginning and let the people of each state decide on the “gay marriage” issue?”
A marriage is the union of a couple in the eyes of the church. Should the government authorize marriage of a gay couple? No. Should the government authorize the marriage of a striaght couple? NO! Marriage should be strictly between a couple and their church. If anything, the govt should only be granting civil unions (on the state level), although in a truly free society, even this should be unnecessary.
Dr. Ron Paul is the first candidate for either of the two controlling political party’s to use the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as his guiding principles in my life time.
If George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin were alive today they would be voting for and donating to the Ron Paul campaign. I am sure they would be spending all of their time campaigning for Ron Paul!!
In Sacramento California in the 8th grade in Jr High School I had a very good civics teacher and a very good history teacher. They gave me excellent education in the history and the leaders that created the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
This was in 1953,1954. One teacher was a red headed teacher and the other a black teacher.these men we’re good friends with each other and friends of all the students.
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Very well written and thought out. Thank you
Sue, good article, but gay marriage is a point where I disagree with Ron Paul. (Abortion is another story - I’m all about the 10th Amendment on that one) … Now, I would agree with the comments Ken made, ideally (that is if the government hadn’t hijacked marriage, but in reality it has).
Personally, I’m for an Amendment that would allow gay marriage .. Maybe not in those words entirely (civil union is a more neutural word) .. But basically, just an Amendment that makes sure there is ABSOLUTE EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW for any two consenting adults who choose to marry each other.
Yeah .. This is pretty much the one issue I’m not with Ron Paul on at all. My whole general stance in life is to make sure everyone is equal under the law. Right now, with the whole gay marriage thing, they’re not, and I have a problem with that. But at least he doesn’t want to do anything on the federal level
Um, what about the 9th Amendment? Anybody have any thoughts as to its relevance to the abortion and gay marriage debates?
“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”